There is nothing like discovering a new writer, that feeling when you're reading they're book and you think to yourself, yeah, I dig what this guy is doing here. I got that feeling when I began reading Robert Swartwood's The Serial Killer's Wife
If you like fast paced thrillers that will keep you up long into the night I can't recommend it highly enough.
Robert Swartwood is also the author of The Calling: A Supernatural Thriller
When Robert agreed to answer a few questions for THE MAN EATING BOOKWORM, I was more than thrilled.
I hope you enjoy it!
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MEB: Robert, welcome to THE MAN EATING BOOKWORM! How are things?RS: Things are going very well, Peter, thanks for asking and thanks for a) reviewing THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE and b) interviewing me here on your blog. An "indie" writer's best friend are book bloggers, so it means a lot when our work is singled out ... at least positively.
MEB: Your latest novel THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE, is a dynamite thriller that will leave readers breathless. Where did the idea for the story originate?
RS: I talked about this at Patti Abbott's blog the other week, but basically I had written a story a year or two ago called "True Confessions of a Serial Killer's Wife," which was about a woman whose husband is suddenly arrested by the FBI for being a serial killer. She's a middle school teacher and had no idea about her husband. What's worse, she has just given birth to a baby boy, and thoughts about whether her son has the same evil inside her husband begin to play around in her mind. The story was more "literary" than anything else, focusing on the characters and the aftermath of the arrest. There are two of her close friends -- Foreman, their family lawyer, and Sheila, her best friend -- as well as mentions of the woman's brother and the young hotshot lawyer that signs on to represent her husband. It's important to note that because all of those characters reappear in the novel. In fact, it was easy starting to write this novel because I had already laid out a background story for the main character with all these supporting characters. Of course, much of what I thought I knew about the characters changed while the novel progressed, which is always fun as a writer.
MEB: The pacing and tension are kept so high throughout most of the book. How hard, or how easy, was it to keep that going?RS: If I learned anything from Elmore Leonard's 10 Rules of Writing, it's to cut the parts readers tend to skip. Writers will always preach that every word is important, but many don't really follow what they say. Oftentimes you'll find needless exposition or redundant dialogue, and I'm not just talking about "indie" writers either. The pros are guilty of it, too. Hell, I know I've done it in the past. Still, I try to always keep that in mind while I'm writing and -- most importantly -- when I'm going back through and revising/editing.
I try to keep the pacing as fast paced as I can, even if not much is happening. In fact, what I've done recently -- in THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE and THE DISHONORED DEAD -- is combined chapters. I create a sort of juxaposition between the chapters and different scenes, because I feel that they can't stand by themselves as chapters, or if they did, they wouldn't be as interesting. It's more of a cinematic technique, and I'm sure there are some writing teachers out there who will condemn me for trying such things, but I'm okay with that.
I will let you in on a little secret, though -- I actually wrote THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE twice. After I had initially pitched it to my agent, I had the idea of having Elizabeth's son get abducted just like in the published version, but that she would be reunited with him almost immediately ... except there would be an explosive collar around his neck. The collar could not be taken off or else it would explode; Elizabeth could not go to the authorities or else it would explode; what's more, there was a timer on the collar that counted down from one hundred hours. The idea was to be a kind of twist on the standard thriller setup; her child was in peril, yes, but this time her child was with her every step of the way. I sent it to my agent and he said he liked it but felt it may be a tad over the top; his main concern was the collar around the son's neck, how bombs don't really have timers on them -- that's more a movie and TV conceit -- and how triggering a bomb isn't as easy as pushing a button. So he said that he would go out with it as is but suggested I revisit that particular point. I am as impatient as any writer, but I am also a perfectionist, so I decided to hold off and revisit the point, and in doing so rewrote most of the novel. But because of this, I ended up cutting out a good chunk and making the novel even tighter and more fast-paced. Plus, by the time it was done, the ebook revolution, if you will, was going even stronger. It began to make more and more sense to self-publish, especially with more bookstores closing, and so after a brief talk with my agent, I decided to do this particular novel myself. He understands how the current market is and was completely fine with it.
MEB: What sort of research was involved in the writing of THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE?
RS: I would love to be one of those writers who can tell you that I spent hours and hours reading various texts and documentations about serial killers, who had even gone so far as to visit an actual serial killer in prison and pick his brain, who maybe even began killing several people so I could not only get into the mind of a serial killer but become an actual serial killer, but the truth is there wasn't much research. A few Google searches here and there provided most of what I needed. Besides, while solid research is great, oftentimes I think it can bog down the pace of a novel, especially a thriller. It's almost like the writer in question spent so long getting all this research and so they feel the need to insert it when it's not really needed just to show how smart they are. For me, at least, I worried more about just telling a really great story.
MEB: Some writers have a certain word count they like to reach each day. Some write at home, others in a coffee shop. Some blast Metallica or some kick ass movie soundtrack to accompany their keyboard pounding, while others prefer the sweet sound of silence. What is a writing day entail for Robert Swartwood?RS: My writing day varies drastically from week to week. My full-time job drains me more than I would like, so when I do get home I'm usually too tired to read let alone write. I used to try to write every day, at least 1,000 words, and while I would love to get back into that kind of schedule, right now it's tough. Also, I do all my own formatting for e-books and print books, so that takes a lot of time too (the reason I do it myself is because I love being in complete control, plus if I want to add stuff to e-books like bonus material or new excerpts, I don't have to wait on someone else to get it done). But once I actually sit down to start a new book, I really dive right in. I could write 1,000 words a day, or I could write 5,000. It all depends on the scene I'm writing, I guess.
MEB: The success or failure of a book can happen literally in the blink of an eye. If you don't have a cover that say's "READ ME!" your book is dead in the water. You hired MEB favourite and cover designer extraordinaire, Jeroen Ten Berge, for THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE (as well as THE DISHONORED DEAD). What was it like working with Jeroen?
RS: Working with Jeroen is quite a pleasure. Blake Crouch was actually the one who referred me to Jeroen, telling me he thought Jeroen would really dig my stuff. And so far that seems to be the case. Basically, I send Jeroen my books and he makes some really kick ass design. Even the wrap around covers he makes for the trade paperbacks are stunning. But you know, it's funny that while having a great cover is definitely essential, oftentimes you'll see books with some pretty hideous cover art in the Kindle Top 100, while books with really great cover art don't fare so well. Obviously there are other factors involved, but the reality is that while having a great cover definitely helps, it doesn't guarantee you'll sell a lot of copies.
MEB: E-books. They've changed the publishing industry forever. What is your take on the whole legitimacy debate between "legacy" authors and "indie" authors? Can an "indie" author be as successful in reaching the wide readership of a "legacy" author?RS: Oh boy, this is always a loaded question, because realistically there are pros and cons to both sides. It's great having the freedom that being an "indie" author provides, but at the same time most writers don't have the heavy reaching power that many major publishers have. Then again, most authors with major publishers are expected to do the bulk of their own promotion, so sometimes it doesn't matter. But for my book published last year, the Hint Fiction anthology put out by W. W. Norton, it was reviewed by The New Yorker and The Los Angeles Times and others, it was featured on NPR's Weekend Edition Saturday with Scott Simon, which are all things that probably wouldn't happen to a self-published author.
While this is a digital revolution, it's also a distribution revolution. Before writers needed publishers to get them into bookstores; now besides the fact that more and more bookstores are closing, the need of a middleman is no longer there. E-readers are now making it possible for writers to go directly to the reader. But is it a good thing? For some, yes. But just because you can, doesn't always mean you should. Before writers had to work with agents and publishers to make their books the best they can be; now they have a friend or two look it over before they upload it to Kindle and other formats. Of course some writers will put more work into it, but many writers are impatient, and so they present readers with a product that isn't the best it can be, which is a shame, because you usually only get one shot with a reader. If they don't care for your one book, they'll probably never bother looking at your other books, even if they're better. So there's that to take into account.
But as far as legitimacy? I think the ones having the most problems with it are the publishing people and those writers who feel the need to be validated. I know some writers who refuse to self-publish because they don't want that stigma. And I'm like, What stigma? The only stigma is the one given by those writers' peers. They feel it more important to impress their follow writers than to impress the people that matter most: the actual readers. Because let's be honest, readers don't much care whether a book is published by a major press or self-published ... well, okay, some do care, but the majority are open to giving new writers a chance no matter who the publisher is. And a good book, regardless who publishes it, will find an audience.
So can "indie" authors be just as successful? As seen by writers such as John Locke and Amanda Hocking, of course. Still, it's difficult for the majority of other writers out there, even those published by major publishers. But that doesn't mean it can't happen. Like I said, good books will find an audience, mostly by word of mouth, so that makes blogs like yours so much more valuable for writers, whether they're self-published or traditionally published.
(Also it should be noted that some writers just don't want to be bothered with having to find their own cover art and doing the formatting for their e-books and print books, either because they don't know how or they don't want to. And while I understand and respect that, I also think many "e-publishers" out there aren't a wise decision for writers either, because while they provide cover art and formatting, they then sell the book via online outlets and take a percentage each month, which can really add up in the e-publisher's favor. Instead, I would encourage writers to pay for cover art and formatting and upload it themselves. Sure it costs a good bit in the beginning, but in the end you keep earning back on your investment. And then, of course, there are writers who just like the idea of having a "publisher" ...)
MEB: Have you discovered any "indie" authors that have really impressed you? Anyone you would like to pimp to the Wormies?RS: First I guess we'd need to get into a debate of just what makes an "indie" author indie these days. Like, is Joe Konrath now considered an indie author? What about Barry Eisler? Anyway, in terms of writers who I've never heard of before I read their books, No Shelter (Holly Lin, No. 1)
MEB: What's your favourite book you have read so far this year? Anything you're looking forward to reading?
RS: It's impossible to pick a favorite, but some books I've read this year that I really thought were great (along with NO SHELTER) were Every Shallow Cut
Books I'm looking forward to? The new Stephen King novel coming out this fall, definitely. Also Ben Loory's short story collection Stories for Nighttime and Some for the DayMEB: What's up next? Any hints for what eager readers can expect to in the coming months?
RS: This October I hope to release a new thriller, the first in a trilogy, called MAN OF WAX. It has the same standard thriller setup as THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE but goes in a different direction. Ben Anderson, a husband and father, goes to bed Sunday night in his home in Pennsylvania and wakes up Monday morning in a seedy motel in California. He doesn't know how he got there, he doesn't know where his family is, and on the bathroom mirror in dried blood is this message: LET THE GAME BEGIN.
I'm also currently writing a short novel with horror legend David B. Silva, which is a supernatural western called WALK THE SKY. It has everything you would want from a pulpy horror western: cowboys, Indians, wrongly-accused men on the run from a posse out to kill them, deserted towns, shoot outs, ancient Indian gods, and what may or may not be zombies. We hope to have it ready by the end of the year, but most likely it will be made available sometime in January or February.
And my novels THE CALLING, THE DISHONORED DEAD, and THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE should be available as trade paperbacks soon for those who prefer the pricier dead tree books.
MEB: Thanks a lot for taking time out of your busy schedule to answer some questions Robert. It's very much appreciated!
Thanks again for having me, Peter! Before I go, though, I want to invite you and your blog readers to my website on August 1 at 7:00 pm EST where I'll be doing a live reading from THE SERIAL KILLER'S WIFE and more.
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Well, there you have it. Thanks again Robert! I for one can't wait for all those projects to hit the electronic shelves. Be sure to check out any of Robert Swartwood's novels and then drop me a line, let me know what you think.











